Comments on: Plaid Cymru’s smear campaign http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/2009/04/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign.html Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:48:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ali Goldsworthy http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/2009/04/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-58 Ali Goldsworthy Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:02:00 +0000 http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign-181.html#comment-58 I think it is fairly obvious that this blog isn't run anonomously 'anonymous' - if people wanted to contact someone about it or a posting on it they would know who was at the other end of the line/email.<br /><br />You are right occasionally we let people publish under pseudenoymns, but if someone had a problem with what was posted they would know who to go to. <br /><br />But to the extend we need to do a post introducing the admin team you are right. It's on its way along with a few other changes that were discussed when we met up on Sunday. Hopefully you'll see the fruits of that Labour over the coming weeks and months. It's certainly generated some comments already. I think it is fairly obvious that this blog isn’t run anonomously ‘anonymous’ – if people wanted to contact someone about it or a posting on it they would know who was at the other end of the line/email.

You are right occasionally we let people publish under pseudenoymns, but if someone had a problem with what was posted they would know who to go to.

But to the extend we need to do a post introducing the admin team you are right. It’s on its way along with a few other changes that were discussed when we met up on Sunday. Hopefully you’ll see the fruits of that Labour over the coming weeks and months. It’s certainly generated some comments already.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/2009/04/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-57 Anonymous Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:37:00 +0000 http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign-181.html#comment-57 "P.S. This blog is not run anonymously. As I explained in the post it is run by me and other individuals who post on here in their own name."<br /><br />My congratulations to the parents of 'Admin' and 'FC' for such a creative approach to naming their children. “P.S. This blog is not run anonymously. As I explained in the post it is run by me and other individuals who post on here in their own name.”

My congratulations to the parents of ‘Admin’ and ‘FC’ for such a creative approach to naming their children.

]]> By: Peter Black http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/2009/04/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-54 Peter Black Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:17:00 +0000 http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign-181.html#comment-54 P.S. This blog is not run anonymously. As I explained in the post it is run by me and other individuals who post on here in their own name. P.S. This blog is not run anonymously. As I explained in the post it is run by me and other individuals who post on here in their own name.

]]> By: Peter Black http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/2009/04/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-53 Peter Black Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:15:00 +0000 http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign-181.html#comment-53 Che, I have not censored your comments I have published all of them right up to when you started repeating yourself and getting abusive, something I was not prepared to bore people with. That is my prerogative.<br /><br />The joke is that you Plaidies do not understand what you are doing. Your blog posts are sexist, personal and demeaning. They do not constitute serious political comment, rather they amount to abuse and mud slinging in the hope that some of it will stick. You are not the worst. However, the fact that you are semi-officially sanctioned by Plaid Cymru makes that party culpable.<br /><br />I am not smearing anybody. I am saying it how I see it. It is a shame that you cannot see that. Che, I have not censored your comments I have published all of them right up to when you started repeating yourself and getting abusive, something I was not prepared to bore people with. That is my prerogative.

The joke is that you Plaidies do not understand what you are doing. Your blog posts are sexist, personal and demeaning. They do not constitute serious political comment, rather they amount to abuse and mud slinging in the hope that some of it will stick. You are not the worst. However, the fact that you are semi-officially sanctioned by Plaid Cymru makes that party culpable.

I am not smearing anybody. I am saying it how I see it. It is a shame that you cannot see that.

]]> By: Che Grav-ara http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/2009/04/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-52 Che Grav-ara Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:28:00 +0000 http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign-181.html#comment-52 Peter this is an absolute joke.<br /><br />"I do not want to introduce censorship because I know that it is unproductive, unenforceable and illiberal (in reverse order)."<br /><br />You have censored my legitimate comments just because they disagree with you. You have lost any credibility you had left.<br /><br />The fact you are attempting to smear Plaid Cymru in this way on a Lib Dem official blog run anonymously is beyond hypocrisy! Peter this is an absolute joke.

“I do not want to introduce censorship because I know that it is unproductive, unenforceable and illiberal (in reverse order).”

You have censored my legitimate comments just because they disagree with you. You have lost any credibility you had left.

The fact you are attempting to smear Plaid Cymru in this way on a Lib Dem official blog run anonymously is beyond hypocrisy!

]]> By: Peter Black http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/2009/04/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-51 Peter Black Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:53:00 +0000 http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign-181.html#comment-51 Try re-reading the post and commenting on that not on what you want it to say.<br /><br />My complaint is that Plaid Cymru are using anonymous blogs to run a smear and abuse campaign against their opponents. The solution to that is for Plaid to take some responsibility for the semi-official actions of their staff.<br /><br />I do not want to introduce censorship because I know that it is unproductive, unenforceable and illiberal (in reverse order).<br /><br />If you are unhappy with that view then starting your own blog may well be the solution for you. Try re-reading the post and commenting on that not on what you want it to say.

My complaint is that Plaid Cymru are using anonymous blogs to run a smear and abuse campaign against their opponents. The solution to that is for Plaid to take some responsibility for the semi-official actions of their staff.

I do not want to introduce censorship because I know that it is unproductive, unenforceable and illiberal (in reverse order).

If you are unhappy with that view then starting your own blog may well be the solution for you.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/2009/04/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-50 Anonymous Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:28:00 +0000 http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign-181.html#comment-50 But Peter, if you do not want some kind of regulation or censorship then there will always be attack blogs run by party staff or not? Agree or disagree? Rather than whingeing from the sidelines I was trying to encourage debate about measures we could actually introduce to improve political blogging but nobody seems to want to have this debate (bar Peter's idea of party's asking their staff to stop blogging anonymously – a code of conduct for all Assembly and Westminster staff?). It's nice to have good old whinge at how nasty other parties are and not come up with any ideas as to how to regulate blogging or political debates but obviously this is not the blog for this kind of discussion. Back to Iain Dale, Guido, Tom Harris and other blogs that discuss the issues. But Peter, if you do not want some kind of regulation or censorship then there will always be attack blogs run by party staff or not? Agree or disagree? Rather than whingeing from the sidelines I was trying to encourage debate about measures we could actually introduce to improve political blogging but nobody seems to want to have this debate (bar Peter’s idea of party’s asking their staff to stop blogging anonymously – a code of conduct for all Assembly and Westminster staff?). It’s nice to have good old whinge at how nasty other parties are and not come up with any ideas as to how to regulate blogging or political debates but obviously this is not the blog for this kind of discussion. Back to Iain Dale, Guido, Tom Harris and other blogs that discuss the issues.

]]> By: Frank H Little http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/2009/04/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-49 Frank H Little Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:06:00 +0000 http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign-181.html#comment-49 Missed point error by the man with four legs and a tail. Nobody condemning the McBride/Draper plans was accused of trying to censor the Internet. Missed point error by the man with four legs and a tail. Nobody condemning the McBride/Draper plans was accused of trying to censor the Internet.

]]> By: Peter Black http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/2009/04/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-48 Peter Black Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:36:00 +0000 http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign-181.html#comment-48 If you read what I have said I have not proposed any measures to stop them. I am not advocating censorship, just political parties taking responsibility for the actions of their employees. If you read what I have said I have not proposed any measures to stop them. I am not advocating censorship, just political parties taking responsibility for the actions of their employees.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/2009/04/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-47 Anonymous Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:23:00 +0000 http://www.freedomcentral.org.uk/plaid-cymrus-smear-campaign-181.html#comment-47 So, complaining aside, what actualy measures do you propose to stop attack blogs? So, complaining aside, what actualy measures do you propose to stop attack blogs?

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