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	<title>Comments on: #plaidconf Ieuan Wyn Jones speech &#8211; live blog feed</title>
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		<title>By: Sion J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sion J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just watched it online and found myself falling asleep - IWJ looks like he&#039;s having a hissy fit thorughout, waving his arms and literally shouting (shrieking given the pitch) to provide emphasis.
Was there anything of substance in here? Plaid values - &#039;fairness and.......a fair deal&#039;. Reject negative politics - then slag off rivals, then that cracker of a quote &#039;people say, my god, these people are actually running the country&#039; - whoever wrote this may actually be working against Plaid from the inside - it really is that bad.
Was hoping this speech would turn a corner for Plaid but it&#039; oh-so clear the party of &#039;difference&#039; is still ideologically driven by nationalism and after that it&#039;s pick and mix from the right and left (quite far in both directions). 
Bizarre stuff - Iain Duncan Smith was actually better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watched it online and found myself falling asleep &#8211; IWJ looks like he&#8217;s having a hissy fit thorughout, waving his arms and literally shouting (shrieking given the pitch) to provide emphasis.<br />
Was there anything of substance in here? Plaid values &#8211; &#8216;fairness and&#8230;&#8230;.a fair deal&#8217;. Reject negative politics &#8211; then slag off rivals, then that cracker of a quote &#8216;people say, my god, these people are actually running the country&#8217; &#8211; whoever wrote this may actually be working against Plaid from the inside &#8211; it really is that bad.<br />
Was hoping this speech would turn a corner for Plaid but it&#8217; oh-so clear the party of &#8216;difference&#8217; is still ideologically driven by nationalism and after that it&#8217;s pick and mix from the right and left (quite far in both directions).<br />
Bizarre stuff &#8211; Iain Duncan Smith was actually better.</p>
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		<title>By: Alun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what was the Stereophonics song he entered with. Was it this: http://xrl.in/33ve ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what was the Stereophonics song he entered with. Was it this: <a href="http://xrl.in/33ve" rel="nofollow">http://xrl.in/33ve</a> ?</p>
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		<title>By: Welsh and proud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Welsh and proud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting how the bbc are not covering this speech at all - you can bet your bottom dollar that they would cover such a widely criticized speech by any other party leader with wall-to-wall coverage. Just goes to emphasis how nationalist and Plaid supporting the BBC in Wales really are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting how the bbc are not covering this speech at all &#8211; you can bet your bottom dollar that they would cover such a widely criticized speech by any other party leader with wall-to-wall coverage. Just goes to emphasis how nationalist and Plaid supporting the BBC in Wales really are.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Townsend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Townsend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Team Geek, I&#039;d heard that too. Maybe Jane Hutt doesn&#039;t think it&#039;s that great and doesn&#039;t want to be associated with it. Or maybe it really was IWJ&#039;s idea. Who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Team Geek, I&#8217;d heard that too. Maybe Jane Hutt doesn&#8217;t think it&#8217;s that great and doesn&#8217;t want to be associated with it. Or maybe it really was IWJ&#8217;s idea. Who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Team Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Team Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;15:10 – Yep there you go. He introduced ProAct and ReAct. I think they’re good, but they’re hardly going to save the economy.&quot;

Aren&#039;t these administered by Jane Hutt anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;15:10 – Yep there you go. He introduced ProAct and ReAct. I think they’re good, but they’re hardly going to save the economy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t these administered by Jane Hutt anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt O&#39;Grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt O&#39;Grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was one of the dullest speeches I&#039;ve ever heard. Just looked like he couldn&#039;t be arsed.

To be fair to him, we all feel like that on a Friday afternoon, but if you&#039;d have just gone to conference for that, you&#039;d be regretting spending the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was one of the dullest speeches I&#8217;ve ever heard. Just looked like he couldn&#8217;t be arsed.</p>
<p>To be fair to him, we all feel like that on a Friday afternoon, but if you&#8217;d have just gone to conference for that, you&#8217;d be regretting spending the money.</p>
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		<title>By: zzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>zzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good god - That was awkward - Speech writing 101 - If your leader is uninspiring and boring - make their speech short and don&#039;t give them too many hand gestures. There were actually people asleep in there I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good god &#8211; That was awkward &#8211; Speech writing 101 &#8211; If your leader is uninspiring and boring &#8211; make their speech short and don&#8217;t give them too many hand gestures. There were actually people asleep in there I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Harding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone else notice how many times he used the word change? He’s in government for god sake – if he wants change do something about it!

I noticed a lot of empty seats in the auditorium and a notable lack of young people in the crowd and some of the people sat behind him look ready to nod off. 

IWJ seems very nervous, didn’t know what to do with his hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone else notice how many times he used the word change? He’s in government for god sake – if he wants change do something about it!</p>
<p>I noticed a lot of empty seats in the auditorium and a notable lack of young people in the crowd and some of the people sat behind him look ready to nod off. </p>
<p>IWJ seems very nervous, didn’t know what to do with his hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank H Little</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank H Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He has just left himself open by comparing Plaid Cymru to well-known painters and illustrators. An immediate thought is that they are the van Meegerens or Keatings of politics, ready to turn out copies in any style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has just left himself open by comparing Plaid Cymru to well-known painters and illustrators. An immediate thought is that they are the van Meegerens or Keatings of politics, ready to turn out copies in any style.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Little</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was watching it on BBC-Parliament. Got fed up, and turned to BBC-2 for &quot;Monk&quot;, Blow me if IWJ isn&#039;t on there, too.

I notice he still trots out the line that Plaid was the only party to oppose the Iraq adventure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching it on BBC-Parliament. Got fed up, and turned to BBC-2 for &#8220;Monk&#8221;, Blow me if IWJ isn&#8217;t on there, too.</p>
<p>I notice he still trots out the line that Plaid was the only party to oppose the Iraq adventure.</p>
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